Recorded while the Grateful Dead were on a break from touring, the content that acts as a focus for this interview were the movies Jerry Garcia was involved with at the time - The Grateful Dead Movie and Hells Angels Forever. However, this works out nicely as Jerry and Mary Travers (of Peter Paul & Mary fame) are free to follow up on tangential conversations. For those who are not familiar with Mary's interview style, you should be warned that it is often difficult to determine who is interviewing whom. Regardless, this is the least grating of her interviews on the site as it allows for a glimpse of Jerry's patience, kindness and good nature.
Part 100:00 - Editing a Grateful Dead movie / involvement in a Hells Angels movie01:44 - What the Hells Angels movie is about02:42 - The roots of the relationship between the Dead and the Angels05:08 - Being part of a group of outsiders07:20 - Communal values of folk music / East coast vs. West coast 10:29 - The musical backgrounds of the members of the Dead11:15 - Gigging at topless bars to hone the Dead's chops12:20 - Making the switch from bars to acid tests / Kesey's parties14:30 - Making the switch from acid tests to Bill Graham concerts15:27 - Playing while high to an audience that was high16:55 - The interaction between drugs and developing chops20:06 - The changing face of the American music scenes22:06 - "Purported": an invisible word22:57 - California laws designed to deter communal living
Part 200:00 - Socialism as an answer to financial depression01:50 - Americans getting far out / music as a reflection of culture03:25 - Reasons for the American re-examination of individuality06:55 - Film as the antithesis of live music?10:07 - Records vs. live performances11:55 - Tape vs. vinyl12:50 - Different art for different senses14:36 - New directions for the Dead's music / Blues for Allah as a new form18:14 - Maintaining contact with other musicians / getting out into the world19:50 - Methods for hearing new music21:50 - Music as the international language22:40 - Beginning work on a solo album / differences between a Dead album23:46 - Attempting to bypass record companies25:50 - The original impetus for falling in love with music: records, clarinetist father27:51 - The ESP quality found in bands30:20 - How to achieve those magical moments while playing in the band
Part 300:00 - Parsing out 3rd person and 1st person perspectives when in the band01:00 - Thoughts on Rodia and Gaudi: permanence vs. impermanence03:55 - Thoughts on responsibility for the Dead's stance on drugs and its effect on their fans08:30 - Avoiding preaching, sermonizing, and stage banter09:40 - Thoughts on Altamont / the dualism of America12:40 - Thoughts on Alice Cooper15:35 - When performers and a crowd interpret lyrics differently17:55 - Being in the business of fantasy20:40 - Why the Dead were taking a break from touring22:55 - Reminiscing about playing at Watkins Glen / keeping things manageable24:51 - Why the Dead were making a film
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